god walked with adam and eve in the garden

IOW, IMV Where Adam FAILED, Christ Jesus PASSED, *Saying all this Tim, I truly respect your thoughts and views as a brother in Christ. But this goes beyond them, it goes back to Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve had the privilege of being with God, the way that God had intended. It bothers me that I have believed the Bible stated this, and that I have told other people it says this for so long, and I have read the first three chapters of Genesis so many times. God formed Adam from the dust and breathed His own life into the man (Genesis 2:7). But nowhere does it mention or even implies that they "saw" God face to face. Im always amazed at how strongly some people try to defend certain positions. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Later that day, God was walking in the Garden of Eden. IMV they were walking in the IMAGE for which God created them with the FREE WILL to CHOOSE. Im pointing out that possible understanding of the text. They are intelligent, rational creatures, capable of communicating and worshiping God. Hi Tom, Here is the verse in its entirety. Of course, Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden, its written right there in Genesisumahis it 3? Thank you for your post and your diligence to pursuing Biblical accuracy! He was there, He is everywhere and He was always with them. Thats the one where I spend time talking about the ages of Cain and Abel. What does it mean for God to walk with them? They turned to their own ways, sinful ways. I would assume that they drank goats milk during this time as well. Much like those of us that have the infilling of the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. The only mention of walking in that part of Scripture is while Adam and Eve are hiding from God in the garden. If you had bothered to read the post, you would have read these words: Genesis 3:1-12; 21-24. Your email address will not be published. The Hebrew Bible depicts Adam and Eve as walking around the Garden of Eden naked due to their sinlessness. The Tree-of-Life was in the middle of the garden, also the Tree-of-Knowledge-of-Good-and-Evil. 9 The Lord God called to the man and asked him, "Where are you?". I think we both agree that God doesnt need to appear in human form to bring the animals to Adam or to perform surgery on him. You claim the following, which I label as CLAIM #1. I think too many people are confused about what it means that something is directly stated, or implied, or that we might infer, etc. I just want to offer a thought about Cain and Abels ages. Im not sure you have dealt sufficiently with the argument that God must have walked with Adam and Eve in the garden previously for Adam and Eve to know that they sound they heard was God. The sound of God that Adam heard was not the sound of God speaking, because God speaks after Adam has hidden himself, which Adam only does after he hears the sound.. The Bible even indicates that God may have taken on a physical form in order to walk with Adam and Eve in the garden (Genesis 3:8). Considering that each year subtracted from Cain and Abels ages at the time of Abels murder could be added to Adam and Eves time in the Garden, its quite possible that Adam and Eve spent many years in the Garden, which would make their sin all that more sorrowful. Adam and Eve were ashamed of what they had done and afraid to face God, so they hid in the trees. Is it that they are referred to as sons of God? holy ones? Thats not exactly a clear cut and dry case, beyond dispute, based on those sparse details. When God asked them how they knew they were naked, and asked them if they had eaten from the tree they were not to. Man, this helped challenge me to really read through the scriptures on this topic. But what comes to my mind is why would you choose this debated part to address the concern. I just dont get your argument. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden, surrounded by fruit trees and beautiful things. I hope this helps. The term used to explain this and other episodes is anthropomorphism (human-forms). Gen 18 - Abraham's discussion and bargaining with the LORD (YHWH) Ex 3 - Moses at the burning bush. 2. This is just another suposition made by humans who try to understand divinly inspired scripture with a flawed human mind. ( Genesis 3:13-15) When looking at Genesis 3:13-15, there is no direct indication that the serpent had legs, only that its curse would be "on your belly you shall go.". When the Lord made him on the sixth day, He commanded him not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Genesis 2:19 But there is no need to make the text say something it doesnt. He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. So what if he didnt say the words in genesis one would think you would be wise enough to figure it out its not hard. Adam said, I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself (Genesis 3:10, ESV). Job 38:1 states, The YHWH answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:. God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. But God knew they had eaten the forbidden fruit. The complete bible account of the story of Adam and Eve can be found in Genesis 1:26 to Genesis 5:5. When everything fell apart, so did the people. I believe it is very important to know what is and isnt in the Bible. For example, Enoch walked with God (Genesis 5:22, 24) and Noah walked with God (Genesis 6:9). It would be far better to use a supporting argument that has a strong biblical basis. Why would God spend time with them, because He loved them and wanted to share His love with them! Yet now the man and the woman are hiding from God in fear. However, many scholars believe the best way to explain the image of God is to think of it as a verb. In my searching I found your website and I am so glad I did. I too have always heard that God walked with Adam & Eve in the cool of the day every day. Hi Sam, God told them, "You may eat fruit from any tree, except one. Yes, I see that there are similarities, and I dont deny the possibility that God was present in the garden in a special way compared to the way that He is omnipresent. To the second point in your conclusion, I think it is quite speculative. And maybe that is it, people just want to believe they they did as that is such a powerful feeling knowing God is walking with you. We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. Yes, they could have done this if God made a physical appearance (called a theophany), as He did in other places (e.g., Genesis 12:7; 18:1). Or maybe they read Gods mind. Therefore God was not always with them in the Garden, not as we know it anyway. Much of the talk of the Adam & Eve story revolves around how they ate the . Thank you for reaffirming to me that we can say anything about God and find some reason for or against our reasoning, and that is why we have to be very careful to know what Gods Word says! Thanks for reading. I dont believe I said anywhere in the post or in the comments that the coats of skin were made from animals, although I certainly believe this is easily the most logical conclusion. "Until the cool of the day when the shadows flee away, Turn, my beloved, and be like a gazelle. (Gen. 3:8) Adam is placed in the garden to "cultivate (abad)" and "keep (samar)" it (Gen 2:15). Genesis 3:21 comes after Genesis 3:7, in which Adam and Eve ate from the Tree and realized they were naked. But even these passages do not necessarily imply that Enoch and Noah physically took walks with God. God bless you. Perhaps you should take a moment to read the blog post before commenting. However, that story or statement being preached wont cause anyone to fall into sin. To be clearagain. Read lev 25:20 and if you shall say what shall we eat in the 7th year? Adam and Eve surely knew that the punishment for rebellion was deathand even if they didnt understand the fullness of that word, they knew it wasnt good. Our adversary seeks to discredit the validity of the Word of God. Why werent they mentioned? As I mentioned in the conclusion, God could have walked with them, but the Bible does not tell us that He did. In God's sight they are like filthy rags. I believe when the Bible states they heard the Lord in the cool of the day I think its a spiritual voice. One of my Bible study ladies commented about the command to not eat of the fruit lest they die as possibly being a mystery to Adam and his wife. If he was just manifesting himself in a strong wind, there would be no need to use the word walking. Hi Tim In other words, human beings were made to reflect Gods gloryto show the world what God is likethrough who we are and what we do. And 2 kids who wont hear it that way from Dad. Garden of Eden story: summary. Your article keeps us on the ever-important path of faithfulness. The parts of the claim that are not in quotes are my reasonable inferences of your intent, given what you do *say verbatim*. Answer (1 of 22): Yes. WHY? He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. 8 In the cool of the evening, the man and his wife heard the Lord God walking around in the garden. We do see God speaking to both of them in Genesis 1:2830 when He blessed them and told them to be fruitful and multiply and told them to eat vegetation. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. I dont really hear anyone saying, The Bible says Adam and Eve never walked with God in the garden, but if I did, then Id correct that as well. Walking with God means you are in agreement with Him and His ways ( Amos 3:3 ). Did you notice something else about the way people typically define the image of God? We did not know, nor trained ourselves to do that and now see our own child in the consequences. 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. As you supposed, God did provide water for the animals too. If how we are not that naive to believe that this is a new thing with Him, no we can reasonably infer that God spent time with Adam and Eve. As I mentioned in my post, I have absolutely no problem with the idea that they might have walked with God in the garden. It also seems to assume that they were in the garden for quite a while when they almost certainly were not there for long at all. What if they were some sort of Spiritual Being as God and his Son were at the time. Was it God walking or was it something different? Another potential source for this idea is found in the statements made about those who did walk with God. Thanks for your thoughts. Picture this. They were not merely spiritual beings at that point. Its not that the inferences are necessarily wrong, its that they should not be mistaken for the Word of God. Psalm 104:3. How do I know? There are warnings in Scripture about adding to it. Because Adam and Eve had eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the Lord sent them out of the Garden of Eden into the world. Then God shared his thoughts to Abraham of judging Sodom and Gomorrah. Adam and Eve heard the voice of God walking in the cool of the day.Read the KJV plus many other versions point to the fact that they walked with the voice of God. While its within the realm of possibility that Adam and Eve were 60+ when expelled from the garden, I find it extremely unlikely. 1991 - 2023 Eternal Perspective MinistriesAll Rights Reserved. They heard God's approach as a terrible wind that lashed the trees of the garden, and they took cover. Tell everyone with small kids! That certainly could have been the case if God made a physical appearance (called a theophany), as He did in other places (e.g., Genesis 12:7; 18:1. The sound of movement. God goes to great lengths to explain how he wants the relationship to be. Maybe He was physically there throughoutthe short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts. I think it would be odd for God to first come walking in the garden with Adam and Eve only after they had sinned. (Vs. 21) Did the wind drive them out of the garden? Its not even hard to imagine that Adam and Eve did walk with God prior to the fall. I have been following the comments on this article for several years, and I want to say how much I appreciate your kind and faithful answers. God must have schooled him in his new surroundings. Ive heard this, believed this, and repeated this on more than one occasion. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden Genesis 3:8. It was part of the sad deception that the man and woman who wanted so much to be like God, rather than obtaining the stature of deity, are afraid even to commune with him. Finally, there are many who use the idea of Adam and Eve actually walking with God to stress the theological point of mans closeness to God prior to sin in order to contrast that with mans lost condition after sin. Yes, Jesus is God and was in the beginning with God, but the part about the Word becoming flesh and dwelling among us (John 1:14) is a reference to the Incarnation that began when He was conceived in Marys womb. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. The Bible doesnt tell us how old Cain was when he murdered his brother, but it does give us a potential clue. It doesn't come before, which furthers the notion that God would have been content with them being without clothes, at least provided they didn't eat from the Tree. Thats right, you are right there with them from birth, not that they were made a baby first of course, as that would take other humans to raise them as we know it! Adam tried to put the blame on Eve, and Eve tried to put the blame on the serpent, but God was angry with all three of them! Im not sure that it necessarily follows that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. The Lord could speak from His throne and these actions could be performed just as easily as if He had manifested in the garden to perform the actions. Blessings! So if this is accurate, then what Adam heard was the sound of the Lord moving in the garden, as indicated in the same translations mentioned above. 8 Then the man and his wife heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the breeze of the day, and they hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. constant) communication with God (e.g., the angel in Daniel 10:13 who was withstood by the prince of Persian for 21 days until Michael came to help him). To spend time with Him. He is eternally begotten of the Father, one with the Father, in essence, but he had not yet become flesh. Who was his wife? The Lord God Walking in the Garden. 00:00. But I am very clear in the post that I have no problem with the notion that they might have walked with Him. They forgot about God. Your answer leaves many questions for me though Please explain the remaining context of Gen. 3 in Adams walk with God. So what did they hear in the Garden? Anyway, Im very surprised I forgot to include a link to an article on theophanies that I wrote for Answers in Genesis. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. I dont think it was a mystery to themat least not completely. These factors make Adam, and subsequently Eve who was taken out of the man Adam, uniquely designed to perceive the presence of God, and descern His will. So if the strong wind idea is actually being conveyed by the Hebrew, then there is no textual basis for claiming that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden in the cool of the day. Interesting post. Every description used can also be said about the angelic beings. And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? I believe God appeared to Adam and Eve and Cain and Enoch and Noah and Abraham and Isaac and Jacob (when He wrestled with Him) and the parents of Samson, and even to Balaam and his donkey, the same way He appeared to John. Keep up the good work. This saddens me. Behold we shall not sow,nor gather in our increase: now look at 21 Then I will command my blessing upon you in the sixth year and it shall bring forth fruit for 3 years 22 and you shall sow the 8th year and eat of the old fruit until the 9th year until the fruits come in. They may have walked with Him prior to the Fall, but it just doesnt say that. First it should be recognised that Genesis is a seed box if you want details you need to keep reading. On page 57 of Heaven you say Before the Fall, God came to Eden to visit with Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:8). This passage refers to God walking in the Garden after Adam and Eve have fallen, but before God has confronted them. " (John 1:18) . Suggestions include that it means we are made as rational creatures that can communicate with and worship God, or that we have been given dominion, or that we will live forever. I have been studying this part about god walking with Adam when I came across your post. Privacy Policy. Of course, the eternal Son, the Word by whom the Father made all things has always been present at the Father's right hand. God created Adam and Eve to care for His creation, populate the planet, and have a relationship with Him. In all likelihood, it comes from a misunderstanding of or making an inference from Genesis 3:8: And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (NKJV). But this does nothing to prove that they walked with God in the garden. 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. But then you had already stated this was possible. God sent Adam and Eve out of the garden where grew the tree of life. Or a young stag on the mountains of Bether.". God walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden (Gen. 3:8). It is true that they had not experienced death yet, they came pre-programmed with an ability to speak and understand things. It was a choice that they both made in full knowledge of what was right and wrong. If that suggestion is accurate, then it would have been a physical presence of God coming in judgment, similar to how He spoke from the whirlwind in Job. We must know that Eve and Adam's life in the Garden of Eden was beyond happy. ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! Its not hard at all to see that Adams and Eves sins broke the right standing they had with God. Because the Bible never says that Adam and Eve walked with God. they heard him rebuke them. Hi Janice, I think you misunderstand what was meant by the possibility of God coming in the wind. I believe the context of the above verse was a time when ADAM was NOT at enmity with God and they conferred with each other. No sowing or reaping for 3 years! "Walked with God" is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israel's heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. Ive heard pastors, speakers, authors, and many other Christians confidently state that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden of Eden. why couldnt it have been Jesus walking in the garden. Tim, thanks for striking the axe at the root of this human imagined concept. #1. Hello Tim. Beyond that, the Bible does not tell us about any communication between our first parents and God until after the fall. I have found Bible studies that indicate that God fellowshipped or walked with Adam and Eve, and they refer to Genesis 3:8. Never stop, word will not go void! Ive enjoyed reading your article, the comments and your responses. However, I also notice in chapter 2 that Adam recognized God speaking (commanding) to him concerning the forbidden tree. Thanks for your thoughts on this. If so, that means Cain and Abel could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel. This is something I have heard countless times, and based on the number of responses trying to justify such a view, its pretty clear that a lot of others have heard it and/or taught it. 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